BREW B Q MALT SCHOOL: Secondary Malts

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BREW B Q MALT SCHOOL: Secondary Malts

There will be a Malt School for the Brew B Q, featuring secondary malts, such as biscuit, special B, and other such non-base malts.  The recipe will be something along the lines of like 9ish lbs. of 2 row, with a single lb. of your featured malt with magnum to bitter and yeast of some variety.  I'll do the calculations and get it figured out soon.  Who wants in, 8 spaces available.  I would like to mention that this is a great opportunity for new members, new brewers, brewers who are shy to get their product in front of other, to step out and be a part of this. 

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Also, should we call it

Also, should we call it Secondary Malts or Specialty Malts?

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Count me in Joe.

Count me in Joe.

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I'm in

I'm in

The emperor is not as forgiving as i am

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Hi Joe

Hi Joe

I'd like to do a batch for the party. And if you're willing to do smoked malt, I'd like to do that.

Are you thinking something around 1.050-1.055, 30-35IBUs? Also, I'd like to suggest 1056 or another american ale equivalent. And I like "specialty malts." People might get "secondary malts" confused with other secondary-type terminology. 

Thanks- brandon

 

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Im in. I'll throw my hat in

Im in. I'll throw my hat in for RYE.

 

Also, in my search I found some interesting specialty crystal, caramel and roasted malts on Cargill's website: http://www.cargillfoods.com/specialty-malts/brewing/roasted-malts/index.jsp

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 Excellent

 Excellent

Brandon, Smoked malt would be perfect.  I haven't thought about the numbers for the recipe just yet until the work week lets up and I can have a chance to sit down and think for a few minutes, but those numbers you suggest are pretty much ball park.  If you're in to classifying things, it will basically be an English mild, maybe a little higher gravity like a pre WWI mild, or somewhere thereabouts, that style is perfect for this exposition as basically any malt you can add will still fit neatly into it.  Magnum will most likely be the hop for its clean bittering, US-05 will likely be the yeast,  I'd prefer if everyone used the dry as opposed to the 1056 because freshness is not really an issue, pitching rate is higher, I just think it's better suited for our experiment and its cheap, although I will take a look and see if there is a particular strain that may be better suited.  Also noted is your preference for "Specialty" malt school as opposed to "secondary"  I think I like it better that way too.  So let it be written, so let it be done.  Specialty Malt School it is.  

 

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Hey Joe. Just wondering if

Hey Joe. Just wondering if you had the time to take a look at a potential recipe for the malt school. I was looking to brew next weekend if possible.

Thanks!

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I'll have it posted late

I'll have it posted late Friday night, sorry for the delay.

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Malt School people, please

Malt School people, please add your names to the beer list and include your specialty grain. Thanks!

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ok, Style is a mild but more

ok, Style is a mild but more of a pre WWI mild, just a bit higher alcohol content, we should be clocking in about 4ish, maybe 5 percent depending on the malt you use.  to keep the math simple and relateable we will be doing 10 total pounds of grain, 9 lbs US 2 row, cheap and plentiful, 1lb your chosen malt.  That makes it an easily understandable 10% of the grain bill.  Keeping it with such even numbers will make it easier for people to conceptualize when they taste it what it's effects might be in greater or lesser quantities.  We will be doing a no sparge mash to increase the maltiness, and using magnum hops and S-05 Couldn't be simpler.

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Malt school specialty

Malt school specialty

Mild (11 A)

Type: All Grain
Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 6.82 gal
Boil Time: 60 min
End of Boil Vol: 5.62 gal
Final Bottling Vol: 5.00 gal
Fermentation: Ale, Single Stage

Date: 20 Jun 2015
Brewer: 
Asst Brewer: 
Equipment: Chaos Brewhouse
Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 77.8 %
Taste Rating: 30.0

Taste Notes: 

Prepare for Brewing

  • Clean and Prepare Brewing Equipment
  • Total Water Needed: 8.42 gal

Mash or Steep Grains

Mash Ingredients Amt
Name
Type
#
%/IBU
9 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 90.0 %
1 lbs Special B Malt (180.0 SRM) Grain 2 10.0 %
Mash Steps Name
Description
Step Temperature
Step Time
Saccharification Add 33.66 qt of water at 163.8 F 156.0 F 60 min
  • If steeping, remove grains, and prepare to boil wort
  • Add water to achieve boil volume of 6.82 gal
  • Estimated pre-boil gravity is 1.041 SG
Boil Ingredients Amt
Name
Type
#
%/IBU
0.50 oz Magnum [12.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 3 22.9 IBUs
  • Estimated Post Boil Vol: 5.62 gal and Est Post Boil Gravity: 1.051 SG

Cool and Transfer Wort

  • Cool wort to fermentation temperature
  • Transfer wort to fermenter
  • Add water if needed to achieve final volume of 5.00 gal

Pitch Yeast and Measure Gravity and Volume

  • Measure Actual Original Gravity _______     (Target: 1.051 SG)
  • Measure Actual Batch Volume _______     (Target: 5.00 gal)
  • Add water if needed to achieve final volume of 5.00 gal

Fermentation

  • 20 Jun 2015 - Primary Fermentation (14.00 days at 67.0 F ending at 67.0 F) 
  •  

Dry Hop and Bottle/Keg

  • Measure Final Gravity: _________  (Estimate: 1.016 SG)
  • Date Bottled/Kegged: 04 Jul 2015 - Carbonation: Keg with 12.54 PSI
  • Age beer for 30.00 days at 65.0 F
  • 03 Aug 2015 - Drink and enjoy!

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Joe, can I go with a honey

Joe, can I go with a honey malt for this?

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Brewed with Red X today

Brewed with Red X today

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Brewed with honey malt on 07

Brewed with honey malt on 07/03.

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Malt school people, what's

Malt school people, what's the status with your beer. If you haven't done so already, please add your beer to the spreadsheet by Wednesday, July 15th. We will not be using your beer if it's not listed by this date.

We need to have the malts locked in by this date so Nancy can create the graphics for the party.

Thanks!

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Brewing my cara-rye tomorrow.

Brewing my cara-rye tomorrow.

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Joe, 8.5 gallons strike water

Joe, 8.5 gallons strike water??!! I would usually use 3.5 gallons for a 10# batch. Is that 8.5 gallons total?

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Yes sir. No sparge.  Dump it

Yes sir. No sparge.  Dump it all in, after the mash time is up drain it all out.  Reduced efficiency, Maximum Maltiness. Harness the power.