Elixer of Life: An Olde Ale

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Elixer of Life: An Olde Ale

 

The elixir of life is a legendary potion, or drink, that grants the drinker eternal life and or eternal youth. Many practitioners of alchemy pursued it.  I'd like this to be our pursuit, as well.

 

After looking around at a lot of recipes, and doing a lot of research regarding what constitutes this classic style, I pieced together the recipe below:

 

 

5 Gallon All-Grain Batch

16.00 lb Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain

1.00 lb Treacle (100.0 SRM) (60 min)

0.75 lb Carastan Malt (30.0 SRM) Grain

0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain

0.25 lb Special B Malt (180.0 SRM) Grain

2.00 oz Fuggles [4.50 %] (60 min) Hops 22.3 IBU

2.25 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (15 min) Hops 13.8 IBU

2.50 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (0 min)

 

Yeast:  English Ale (White Labs #WLP002) or US-04 (dry)

Starter:  2L starter.  To make starter use 2L of water mixed with 1/2 pound (8oz) of Dry Extract 24 hours before your brew day.  Boil extract and water, cool, pour into a sanitized growler, and shake vigorously for 1 minute.  Next Add two packets of yeast. Cover with sanitized strip of foil.  Allow to sit for 18-24 hours to propagate.  If you are making the starter in advance store the starter in the fridge after the propagation period.  The yeast will settle out and you may decant the liquid before pitching the yeast onto the wort.  We are shooting for 385 billion yeast cells when pitching.

 

Mash at 158 degrees for 60 minutes

 

Note:  Reduce first 2 gallons of run-off until a syrupy consistency is reached (about 2 qt.).  You will have to eye it to see that its about 2 qts (half gallon).  A good way to know when you are about there is to put your spoon into the reduction.  lift it, it should pour off the spoon slowly and as a syrup.  If that happens you are good to go.

 

update from first brew

 
updated on:  02/12/12

Brewer Batch size Brewed? Shares
David 5 Gallons Yes 1
Daniel 5 Gallons Yes 1
Tommy 5 Gallons Yes 1
Kyle 5 Gallons Yes 1
Thomas 5 Gallons Yes 1
Dan 5 Gallons No 1
Niilo 5 Gallons Yes 1
Jim 5 Gallons Yes 1

Iggi

Sean

Chris/Jess

Dan Mcarthy

5 Gallons

5 Gallons

5 Gallons

5 Gallons

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

1

1

1

1

 

 

 

 

 

 

For this group brew, we will need eleven 5 gallon batch brewed up.  If you would like to do more than 5 gallons, please indicate the number of gallons you are willing to contribute to the barrel.  All batches will be fermented in primary, then transferred into the barrel for aging. Each 5 gallons contributed will equate to one share for future splits.

 

 

Blending/Solera

 

This barrel brew will be a mixture of barrel blending and a pseudo-solera style project.  At the 6 month mark, 10 gallons will be removed from the barrel.  Each person in this barrel group will brew up 5 gallons of a beer of their choice; 2 people will brew up 5 gallons of the recipe above to refill the barrel. (i.e. if we have 11 people, 2 people will brew the recipe above; 9 people will brew up other beers).

 

Brewer's for this barrel will meet up at the 6 month mark, bringing the 5 gallons of "brewer's choice" beer that they made.  Together the group will sample all the brews and determine portions of each brew to be added to the beer removed from the barrel.  This blended beer will then be bottled and split amongst the group. If a portion of the beer removed from the barrel is left over, it will be kegged and put on tap in the brew house.

 

At the 1 year mark, one of two things will occur.  A) another blending session will be held.  (B) the contents of the barrel will be removed and divided up based on each brewer's share.

 

 

Specialty grains

 

I've ordered all the specialty grains and will divide them up into 11 bags.  Each brewer will need to obtain the 16 pounds of Marris Otter.  I have 2 sacks of MO coming as part of the bulk grain buy.  If you don't have any MO, you can buy some from me at cost.  Other option is going to the local homebrew store and picking some up. 

I should be getting the specialty grains just after Christmas.  I've ordered enough for every persons batch and it comes out to $4 a person.  I will divide up all the grains into bags and mark each persons name on the bag.  The bags will be at the brew house in the grain room.  If you need Marris Otter...let me know.  I have 2 sacks that I ordered as part of the last group bulk grain buy.

I am working on finding a good bulk source for trecale and will add that amount/price in once i find more details.

 

Dates and obligations

 

Please understand that if you are signing up to be a brewer for this barrel project, that you will need to commit to being present on certain days for things such as blending, bottling, and barrel filling.  Below are some dates to give a guideline for how things will work.

 

 

Sunday February 19th: All batches should be brewed  by this date.

 

 

Sunday February 26th: (required attendance)  On this day, the barrel will be drained, rinsed, and filled with each members brew.  This will most likely take place before the monthly meeting.  Each brewer for this project is expected to help in the filling and cleaning portions.

 

 

July ???: (required attendance)  By July 10 additional gallons of the recipe should have been brewed up by two members of the project.  the remaining members should also have 5 gallons of a beer of their choosing finished.  Sometime in mid July (group will pick a date that works for everyone) all brewers for this project will meet to blend a beer, followed by bottling of the beer.

 

 

February (following year): (required attendance)  Brewers for this project will blend another beer or remove brew from barrel.

 

 

 

 

 

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Any update on the blending? I

Any update on the blending? I have my batch brewed and ready to blend.

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yeah. I think we're waiting

yeah. I think we're waiting on the two batches of additional beer to be brewed as well as for new blending batches.  We had volunteers at the last meeting but I don't think anyone followed through.

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Is the blending still

Is the blending still happening?

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I won't be able to make it

I won't be able to make it until after 6pm tomorrow.  I will be at GI Clybourn all day.  Think you guys will still be there or should someone do mine for me?  

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I wouldn't move it. When we

I wouldn't move it. When we rack that will be secondary.

Angel share is what "vanishes" from the barrel requiring you to top off. Beer gets absorbed into the wood over time requiring more to be added. The barrel is wood, so its permiable as well accounting for some loss.

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Also, should I rack to

Also, should I rack to secondary?  Come Sunday, my batch will have been in the primary for 15 days, so in contact with the yeast cake for about 12 or 13.  Is it worth the oxygen exposure at this point?  Usually I've racked by now, but I know some people don't use a secondary at all.

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The Angel's share?

The Angel's share?

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Chris, ya, I was a dummy, I

Chris, ya, I was a dummy, I meant Sunday all along.

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That's fine...we can still

That's fine...we can still add it to the barrel. It will be good to have some different sugars exposed to the wood before they are fermented out.

As for the gravity, you should be fine...you were close enough and this method of brewing and filling should even everything out once combined.

We will probably have to brew another batch soon...keep it in a keg and top off the barrel every few months due to losses in the angel's share.

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hey guys....i was going to

hey guys....i was going to brew this over the weekend but got forced to work 15hrs on sat and 11 on Sunday.  I finally got a day off yesterday and knocked out both brews.  The og was lower then everyone elses...i am still trying to dial in the efficiency with biab and big beers.  Its still kind of a mystery why my gravity is all over the place when trying to do a 1.070 beer and above.  i should be able to come by on Sunday as long as i don't work all night Saturday night.  I have to work 3-11 Sunday so i can only hang for a few hours

anyway this beer ended up 1.082 and is bubbling away.....let me know what to do with it....my guess is it wont be done fermenting for another week.....sorry i missed the deadline....i have had 1 other day off this month..here is a pic...thats alot of grain

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Once again....Yes, we can do

Once again....Yes, we can do two barrels.

No, I don't think its too many. There is a spigot outside too. I think your estimate for people there is high.

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<slap to the forehead> When

<slap to the forehead> When will I learn...

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Debbie...we thrive in CHAOS,

Debbie...we thrive in CHAOS, don't you know this??

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I'm going to be the Debbie

I'm going to be the Debbie Downer here...  If I'm counting correctly, three brews will be going; 8-10 people will be filling David's barrel; and there's still no answer to Iggi's question "can two barrels be filled on the same day?" Which could mean 15-20 people filling barrels (and washing/rinsing carboys) and 3-4 brewers who will need the single hose. Does anyone else think this sounds like it may be a bit too many people trying to do stuff at one time?

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A little confused here. Ig

A little confused here. Ig are you brewing Sat and Sun? We are still filling the barrel on Sun? Everybody is signed up to brew on Sat.

iggi said:

ima start with Jerry at 9.

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ima start with Jerry at 9.

ima start with Jerry at 9.

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I planned on starting at 9.

I planned on starting at 9. If you think I should start earlier, let me know. I'm hoping to be on the boil by noon.

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When were you planning on

When were you planning on starting? If you start early, you should be fine. Staggering stuff seems to work well.

Although my disclaimer is that its gonna get pretty hectic come noon.

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So far I only see Jess and I

So far I only see Jess and I plus roonming looking for a spot on Sunday.

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im concerned that there will

im concerned that there will be too many people.  others are in fact looking to brew as well.  i might be helping an extract brew starting at 9am, and anticipate being done by noonish, but im second thinking that one as well.  we will be fighting over the hose a bit, too.

Christopher Murphy said:

Would it be cool if Jess and i brewed on this day. I was hoping to pitch on top of the trube. I know another Brewer Level is interested in the space for the day.

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Would it be cool if Jess and

Would it be cool if Jess and i brewed on this day. I was hoping to pitch on top of the trube. I know another Brewer Level is interested in the space for the day.

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you have me at the saving

you have me at the saving water part! im in.

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Also, this pump would allow

Also, this pump would allow for the use of a counterflow chiller...pumping wort through it straight into your carboy. One pass thru and your wort is quickly put into your carboy, at a proper pitch temp. We'd also save lots of water. We waste a lot of water at winter temps already...summer ground water will be a higher temp, which translates into longer running of our immersion style chiller.

Pump + Countflow chiller is much more efficent.

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Ya I agree. Since these

Ya I agree. Since these barrels can't be moved from their location the need to be emptied and filled where they stand. Can the pump be used to transfer beer from carboys into the barrel as well?

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150. The pump can also have

150. The pump can also have daily use in the brew house durring brews...and will eventually go towards an automated electrical system.

Kyle, you can prob comment on our last experience. When we drained these...it took about 20-25 mins to drain the barrels to 3 quarter empty. We then lifted and drained through the bung opening.

We will no longer have this luxury of being able to move barrels around and dumping. In order to get the most amount of liquid out, we need a pump to left out what we can't physically move.

We will have the same problems and inefficencies in the future. If we are going to continue a barreling program using large barrels...we need a pump.

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David how much is one of

David how much is one of these pumps?

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I think we should buy a pump.

I think we should buy a pump...emptying 55 gallons took forever when kyle and I did it...we also don't have the luxury of moving these barrels anymore. A march pump moves 6 gallons a minute...allowing us to empty the barrels in under 10 mins.
With a pump I think we could dump, rinse, and fill two barrels in one day.

The alternative is a pain in the ass and takes a long time...

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Most of us have no clue, most

Most of us have no clue, most of us have never filled a barrel; best to ask David directly.

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ill ask again...do you all

ill ask again...do you all think its possible to do two barrels that day?

iggi said:

will it be possible to do two barrels this day?

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Dave are you planning on

Dave are you planning on emptying it a few days early and "refreshing" the barrel with some of that whiskey before filling?

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Probably wont be able to make

Probably wont be able to make it. My rents will be in town.

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Noon works for me

Noon works for me

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Noon works for me. I need to

Noon works for me. I need to do some misc. stuff at the brew house anyway so I may be there around 10:30-11:00 a.m.

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I won't be able to make it

I won't be able to make it till 12:45 but can stay till whenever.

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will it be possible to do two

will it be possible to do two barrels this day?

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That's fine.  Will have to

That's fine.  Will have to leave at 2:30 for work, though.

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How does noon sound? Will

How does noon sound? Will this work for everyone...I'm also considering ordering a pump to speed things up here...emptying the barrels last time with auto-siphons took forever..

Does noon on Sunday work for everyone?

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... I'm scheduled to work at

... I'm scheduled to work at 3 PM so I also hope it's during the day.

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I have to be home at 7:30 p.m

I have to be home at 7:30 p.m. so I'm hoping this happens during the day.

Also, keep in mind that there is no monthly meeting that day; David had originally anticipated filling it before the February Monthly meeting...

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Nice.  Really excited about

Nice.  Really excited about the finished product.

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Heaven Hill I believe.

Heaven Hill I believe.

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what kind of bourbon?  

what kind of bourbon?  

I tried mine and Thomas' today.  Both were good.  My gravity is 1.026. 

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Bourbon County Stout

Bourbon County Stout

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What was originally in the

What was originally in the barrel we're using?

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Im getting it done this

Im getting it done this weekend

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1020's, possibly higher or

1020's, possibly higher or little lower.  its hard to gauge with all the specialty sugars.

Also, I think everyone has brewed...im just not sure if Lager dan has brewed his batch.  Feb. 26th is the fill date.

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I brewed this one up at home.

I brewed this one up at home.  My brew kettle is large enough that it can sit over two burners at once, so I can generally get up to temp pretty quick.  The reduction is what killed me.  It took like 2 hours total, and going from about .6 gallons to .5 gallons probably took 45 minutes.  And I had to babysit it the whole time because it was constantly threatening to boil over. 

The starter worked like a charm.  I have to make an effort to not be lazy do that more often.  It started going a few hours after I pitched on Saturday evening, and it was still going gangbusters this morning!  I assume the relatively high mash temp is going to result in low attenuation.  What kind of attenuation should I be expecting?

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were you doing this beer at

were you doing this beer at home or brewhouse sean?  I can't imagine doing it on anything but a propane burner.

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Yeah, same here. Hit right

Yeah, same here. Hit right around 1.090. It was a good experience; nothing difficult just time consuming.

So, this is the first time I REALLY paid attention to numbers. I plugged all the requisite info into BeerSmith and it is telling me "Tot Efficiency 73%" and "Measured Efficiency 63%." The first number sounds good; the second sounds bad. What gives? How can I increase efficiency?

Also, I suppose this is a BeerSmith question as well as an "Elixir of Life" question. When I click on "Design" on this recipe, it reads "Total Grains 18.50 lb" but when I click on "Water Vols" it says "Mash Grain Wt 17.50 lb." Why the "1 lb" difference?

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Wow, it took forever to

Wow, it took forever to reduce those first 2 gallons.  This was a looooong brew day.  Hit 75% efficiency, and my OG was 1.094, but I ended up with a little more than 5 gallons.

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